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Episode 25: Dustin Manny (Manny Topsoil and Gravel)
Episode 25: Dustin Manny (Manny Topsoil and Gravel)
Episode 25: Dustin Manny (Manny Topsoil and Gravel)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our Host Mike Nelson and Visionary Founder Derek Foster interview Dustin Manny, the main man behind Manny Topsoil and Gravel! Dustin is all about working hard and doing the job right, and he tells us all about his methods, beliefs and styles right here in this episode!00:15 - Hello, Newspaper Truck! And a Snag in the Brewery
03:08 - There’s Always an Issue…
04:18 - Welcome, Dustin!.. Finally!
06:08 - An Introduction to Dustin Manny
09:07 - Hard Work is Easier When You’re Working for Yourself!
11:37 - Making the Jump to Self-Employment
15:43 - Does the Economy and Real Estate Market Affect Dustin’s Business?.. NO!
17:05 - The Challenges of Growth: Trucks Ain’t Cheap!
21:03 - A Two-Employee Business… Two is Plenty!
22:36 - Vacation, Have to Get Away… Slows Down Business, Though!
24:30 - From One Guy in a Truck to a Massive Company…
25:30 - … If You Can Get a Truck!
26:39 - Dustin’s Secret to Success: Hard Work!
28:57 - Working Blue Collar, You Don’t Need a Workout Regimen!
29:51 - Hey, Shit Happens!
33:29 - Time With the Kids… Blue Collar’s Big Downside
36:04 - Mike’s Kids Smash his Televisions
37:17 - College Isn’t for Everyone! There’s so Much Opportunity in Blue Collar Work!
42:09 - Routine? Nah! Up, Eat, and Go!
43:14 - Mike Nelson, (Semi) Professional Podcaster
44:01 - Dustin’s Marketing Secret: Diversify, Try New Things!
45:15 - Turn Off Your Damned Phone!
46:41 - What’s Hot? CDL Drivers, and Hard Workers of All Kinds!
48:32 - Dustin’s Key Piece of Advice: Pick Your Niche, and Master it!
49:49 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewers
Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Dustin Manny
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Runtime
51 Minutes, 35 Seconds
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Air Date
March 15th, 2023
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Episode 24: Ryan van Amburgh (Career Jam)
Episode 24: Ryan van Amburgh (Career Jam)
Episode 24: Ryan van Amburgh (Career Jam)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster talk to Ryan van Amburgh, the co-founder of Career Jam! His organization helps youths realize their potential and find the career pathways that are right for them, along with fostering development of the Blue Collar labor force and helping local companies find their next generation of workers!
00:16 - Introduction01:27 - What is Career Jam?03:18 - Kids Entering the Trades07:19 - Shoutout to RASP Incorporated and LISSMAC!10:03 - What Does the Labor Force Look Like?13:16 - Having a Hand in Workforce Development15:30 - The Role of Our Schools in Workforce Development20:56 - Career Pathways: Paving the Way25:56 - Why is Workforce Development so Splintered Between Groups?30:19 - The Labor Pinch… Ryan Saw it Coming!33:39 - Upcoming Career Jam Events36:33 - How Can My Business Support Career Jam?39:16 - Impressing Visitors is So Rewarding!44:42 - Ryan’s #1 Hiring Tip: Collaborate at the Sources!46:14 - Career Jam 2054: What’s Next?47:42 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch50:24 - Send Your Questions toThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Ryan van Amburgh
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Runtime
51 Minutes, 17 Seconds
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Air Date
February 15th, 2023
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Episode 23: Tom Shanley (Daigle Cleaning Systems of Westchester)
Episode 23: Tom Shanley (Daigle Cleaning Systems of Westchester)
Episode 23: Tom Shanley (Daigle Cleaning Systems of Westchester)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Tom Shanley, a Daigle Cleaning Systems franchisee from Westchester, New York! They discuss the many benefits of franchising - including streamlined processes, scalable goalsetting, and more! Take a listen and find out how both Derek and Tom made Daigle Cleaning Systems great!00:15 - Introduction
01:20 - The Blue Collar Timeline: From Side Hustle to Franchise
06:46 - Introducing… Tom Shanley!
09:33 - Only One Full-Time Job and a Side Hustle? LAZY!
11:21 - The Power of a Franchise
13:35 - The DOS
14:55 - Picking a Cleaning Franchise… Daigle Was the Best!
16:25 - Why Franchise?..
19:19 - … To Benefit From the Experience of Others!
21:20 - Switching to Daigle: Low Buy-In, High Scalability!
24:29 - Sales vs. Operations: Which Background is More Important?
27:10 - Goal For Next Year: Double the Revenue!
29:05 - Kitchens are Filthy! Hood Cleaning is Necessary!
30:32 - Daily Routines: Plan Your Time as Efficiently as You Can!
32:00 - Tom’s One Key Piece of Advice: Do a Great Job!
33:40 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Tom Shanley
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Runtime
35 Minutes, 35 Seconds
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Air Date
January 9th, 2023
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Episode 22: Brad Lewis (Lewis Lawn Care & Masonry)
Episode 22: Brad Lewis (Lewis Lawn Care & Masonry)
Episode 22: Brad Lewis (Lewis Lawn Care & Masonry)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Brad Lewis, the hard-working owner of Lewis Lawn Care & Masonry! He started at a very young age without even having a car to take him between clients; but he grew his "side hustle" into a successful business with hard work and dedication! Take a listen and find out how!00:00:15 - Introduction: Marketing with “Money” Mike Nelson
00:02:25 - A Brief Overview of Brad Lewis: Master Mason, Handy Hardscaper!
00:04:42 - Starting Young: Want a New Skateboard? Get Mowin’!
00:07:04 - Learning From (and Teaching) Sub-Contractors… Way up High!
00:08:52 - Securing Equipment… Without a Car!
00:11:45 - Working Within Walking Distance
00:13:24 - Running the Mile
00:15:46 - Pathetic Pay Entering White Collar… Screw It! Blue All the Way!
00:18:22 - Tutoring Economics… But Teaching? No Way! Brad’s a Machine!
00:20:30 - Sleep is for the WEAK! Work, Learn, and Work Some More!
00:23:14 - Back to the Present: Home and Apartment Rehabbing with the Crew
00:26:59 - Doing Nothing?.. No Way! FIRE Movement Counter-Intuitive?
00:31:30 - Restoring Busted-Up Homes: “Be a Good Steward”
00:34:45 - Don’t Be Afraid of Your Employees Spreading Their Wings - Support It!
00:40:01 - Finding Customers: The Single Most Important Part of Business!
00:44:12 - The Future… Let it Come! You Can’t Plan For the Unknown!
00:46:27 - Lawnwork?.. Not Worth It! Get a Goat!
00:50:20 - “Foster Freedom”: Value Your Workers and Their Families!
00:53:17 - Brad’s #1 Piece of Advice: Spread Your Work Out, Don’t Try to “Burn a Year”!
00:56:40 - The 5:30 AM Riser: Get Emails Out of the Way and Plan Your Day!
00:58:20 - Closing Remarks: Masonry, Not Masonary!
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Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Brad Lewis
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Runtime
1 Hour, 51 Seconds
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Air Date
December 13th, 2022
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Episode 21: Mark Miller (Performance Industrial)
Episode 21: Mark Miller (Performance Industrial)
Episode 21: Mark Miller (Performance Industrial)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our host Mike Nelson interviews Mark Miller - his old boss, and the main man behind Performance Industrial! They talk about the struggles early businesses face and how they overcame them, Mark's well-studied practices and methods, and even how Mark overcame a complete relabeling and brand change! You won't want to miss this informative episode!00:16 - Introduction
00:48 - A Brief History of Mark Miller: Trucking Right Out of High School!
03:51 - Getting Dirty with Americlean: You’ve Got to Have a Plan!
04:56 - The E-Myth: A Revelation! Plan it Smart and the Stress Melts Away!
09:08 - Is Consulting Worth It? Yes - If You Really Learn From It!
12:03 - There’s So Much to Learn: So Learn the Right Stuff!
13:57 - Mike’s Claim to Fame: Being Fired by Mark?!
16:27 - Are You Meant to Work For Someone Else? Find Out!
17:56 - Hiring? Don’t Use Indeed - Go to Sandy’s Clam Bar!
18:33 - From Americlean to Performance Industrial: Why the Rebrand?
20:22 - Every Company is a Performance: From Front Stage to Back!
22:34 - Shifting Focus: What to Consider
26:12 - Building a Company: All About Personal Communication, Before AND After the Internet!
29:08 - Marketing is Powerful… But to a Greenhorn, Selling is So Much More!
31:08 - The Golden Phrase: Make it Happen!
33:42 - The Button: “I’ll Make it Happen!”
34:46 - Mark’s Biggest Challenge… Himself! If You Don’t Become Better, You Become Bitter!
36:13 - Mark’s Biggest Mistake: Hiring the Wrong People! Make Choices Carefully, At Work and at Home!
37:37 - Work Ethic: It’s Easy to Criticize, But Everyone is Motivated Differently!
41:24 - Things Have Changed… But For the Better! There’s Nothing Wrong With Safety and Life Balance!
41:59 - The Value of College: Very Dependent! Think it Over First!
43:52 - School Teaches You the Core Skills… But Nothing About Entrepreneurship or Salesmanship!
45:31 - Not Going to College Doesn’t Mean Burger-Flipping! Make Your Own Success!
47:23 - Mark’s Key Piece of Advice: Connect With Other Business Owners! Success Leaves Clues!
50:01 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewer
Mike Nelson
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Guest
Mark Miller
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Runtime
53 Minutes, 20 Seconds
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Air Date
November 22nd, 2022
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Episode 20: Luke Michaels (Michaels Group Homes)
Episode 20: Luke Michaels (Michaels Group Homes)
Episode 20: Luke Michaels (Michaels Group Homes)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Luke Michaels, the main man behind Michaels Group Homes! His third-generation business has undergone a lot of trials and changes throughout the years, and Derek and Mike can definitely relate - find out just what they went through by giving this episode a listen!00:16 - Introduction
02:51 - Three Generations of Michaels Group Homes!
06:03 - When Life Gives You Lemons…
06:51 - Whiny Moments: Don’t Ever Let Monday Ruin Your Sunday!
08:44 - Seizing an Opportunity: Nothing Wrong With It!
11:21 - Living Up to the Legacy… Best Not to Think About It!
13:44 - Stick to the Process; But Update It When Necessary!
17:00 - Applying Economics to Homebuilding
19:38 - Luke’s Biggest Challenge: Dealing With the Development Red Tape!
23:02 - Some Excellent Advice: If You Can, Work for Yourself!
28:01 - Preparing For the Market Stabilization
31:03 - Youth Opportunities
36:28 - Only Let Your Organization Grow as Big as You Can Keep it Running Smoothly!
40:45 - Is College Right For You? Yes: IF You Have a Plan!
43:04 - Living With a Psychologist
43:46 - Routines Help Keep You Grounded: Mike Loves Podcasts!
46:35 - Luke’s Favorite Podcasts: Joe Rogan, and Doughboys!
47:31 - Our Goal: To Reach, Connect and Aid Current and Future Tradespeople!
49:19 - Tech Jobs: Sexy, But Not Necessarily Secure! Trades Can Be Recession-Proof!
51:45 - There’s a Lot of Opportunity Locally! No Inattentive National Builders Here!
52:33 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewers
Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Luke Michaels
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Runtime
54 Minutes, 23 Seconds
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Air Date
November 18th 2022
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Episode 19: Anthony Caruso (Caruso Builders)
Episode 19: Anthony Caruso (Caruso Builders)
Episode 19: Anthony Caruso (Caruso Builders)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Anthony Caruso, the main man behind Caruso Builders of New York! They discuss Anthony's start at 20 years of age, how he grew his business to work on multi-million dollar homes, how his company dealt with the COVID crisis and the labor shortage, and more in this in-depth episode!Anthony Caruso - Caruso Home Builders00:16 - Introduction00:56 - A Brief History of Anthony Caruso and Caruso Builders05:09 - Before Construction: When it Was Time to Go Blue08:56 - Starting Blue at 20: Blue and Green!09:54 - Employees and Subcontractors: Who Does Which Job?11:37 - What Goes Into a Three-Million Dollar Home: Come Visit the Blue Collar Mansion!14:18 - Bunker-Buildin’: Hope For the Best, But Prepare For the Worst!16:18 - The COVID Hurdle: Changed Many Lives, For Better or Worse!18:15 - Expanding Slowly, But Surely21:17 - Speculating Land: A Not-Often-Offered Advantage that Caruso Builders Offers!22:28 - Scoping Out Customers: You Shouldn’t Do Business With Everyone!25:39 - Tradesman Shortages… May Only Get Worse! Those Who Remain Will Control the Market!28:12 - Average Ages: The Blue-Collar Market is Strongest in the 40s and 50s!30:14 - The Caruso Secret: No Hesitation! No Surrender!32:13 - Routines & Obligations: Not Much Free Time!34:48 - What Time is Okay to Text? “Scheduled Send” is a Fantastic Innovation for Night Owls and Early Birds!36:58 - Editor’s Note: I Can Verify That He Really Does Do This.37:23 - Work Ethic, Where Have You Gone? How Are People Making Things Work Without It?40:12 - Goal-Setting and Scaling: Planning Ahead42:54 - Anthony’s One Key Piece of Advice: Never Give Up! Plan For Success and You’ll Have It!43:44 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewers
Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Anthony Caruso
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Runtime
45 Minutes, 31 Seconds
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Air Date
November 2nd, 2022
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Episode 18: Tom Brizzell (Custom Craft Builders)
Episode 18: Tom Brizzell (Custom Craft Builders)
Episode 18: Tom Brizzell (Custom Craft Builders)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Tom Brizzell, the main man behind Custom Craft Builders of Brunswick! They discuss Tom's zen-like approach towards his business, the challenges he faced starting both his business and his family in his twenties, and more in this in-depth episode!
Tom Brizzell - Custom Craft Builders LLC
00:16 - Introduction: Mike’s Crazy Cider
01:31 - A Brief History of Tom Brizzell and Custom Craft Builders
03:35 - A Learning Experience: A Mistake You Learn From is No Mistake!
06:16 - Starting in Your 20s… Talk About Stressful!
06:40 - Owning Your Own Business Does NOT Equal More Free Time (At Least at First)!
08:12 - Working After (or Before) Hours… The Perspective Change Can Make a World of Difference!
10:17 - Tom’s Biggest Mistake: Hiring Friends!
14:33 - The Big Challenge Today: The Economy, and Explaining it to Customers!
17:58 - The Secret to Tom’s Success… Going With the Flow!
19:23 - Succeeding Without Marketing… Your Work Must Be TOP NOTCH to Speak for Itself!
20:37 - Stacking Jobs: How Many is Too Many? It Depends on What Role You Play!
22:00 - Be the “Icing on the Cake”
24:15 - “Today is Going to Suck”: Prepare for Adversity!
26:01 - Work Ethic and the Shifting Expectations of Society
29:55 - From Working for Someone to Working for Yourself: A Difficult Transition!
32:23 - College is Good… If You Know Why You’re Going!
34:35 - Tom’s Routine: Strict Planning Works for Some, But Not Tom!
35:51 - Tom’s One Key Piece of Advice: Don’t Give Up!
36:40 - What Keeps Tom Going?.. Loving What He Does!
37:27 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewers
Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Tom Brizzell
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Runtime
39 Minutes, 17 Seconds
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Air Date
October 25th, 2022
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Episode 17: Matt Phelps (Metabolic Fitness)
Episode 17: Matt Phelps (Metabolic Fitness)
Episode 17: Matt Phelps (Metabolic Fitness)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Matt Phelps, the owner of Metabolic Fitness! They discuss how Matt got started, the stellar programs the facilities offer, and more in this informative episode!Matt Phelps - Metabolic Fitness
00:16 - Introduction
02:03 - A Brief History of Matt Phelps and Metabolic Fitness
07:03 - Derek Training with Matt… In a Warehouse in Schenectady?!
08:13 - How Can Physical Fitness Play a Role in Your Success?
09:59 - Metabolic’s Class Structuring: Don’t “Find a Time”, MAKE the Time!
14:05 - Careful Scheduling: The Key to Success
16:24 - Nutrition: A Misunderstood and Surprisingly Simple Component of Fitness!
18:23 - How Personalized Should Nutrition Be?
19:47 - Intermittent Fasting: Just a Means to an End!
20:40 - Metabolic’s Coaches: Not Just Exercise, but Diet, Too!
21:20 - What’s Next for Metabolic?
23:20 - How Does Metabolic Scale so Quickly? With the Right People!
25:24 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch
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Interviewers
Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Matt Phelps
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Runtime
26 Minutes, 20 Seconds
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Air Date
October 24th, 2022
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Episode 16: Vince Laurenzo (Quick Response)
Episode 16: Vince Laurenzo (Quick Response)
Episode 16: Vince Laurenzo (Quick Response)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp, the podcast!
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners!
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Vince Laurenzo from Quick Response Restoration! Vince's story really hammers home that sometimes, working in a Blue Collar field chooses you, and it's up to you whether you answer the call with your own hard work and dedication!
Vince Laurenzo - Veteran-Made Woodworks
00:15 - Introduction
01:17 - What Does Quick Response Do?
02:06 - What Does Vince Lorenzo Do?
02:35 - Taking Over the Family Business
03:43 - Vince’s Original Sales Role: Why He Left
05:14 - Why is Restoration Consolidating? And How Does Quick Response Fight Back?
06:55 - What Does Vince Do With the Extra Time in His Day?
08:05 - Challenges of Entering a Family Business
09:54 - Working the Business as a Youth, VS. Now: Experience Matters!
13:25 - Seal-Coating Prices: Should’ve Bought From Vince When He Was 16!
14:14 - Mike and Derek’s Recommendation: Listen to Andy Frisella, Too!
15:25 - How to Succeed in a Saturated Market: A Personalized Touch!
18:00 - Fridge Magnets: Stainless Steel Has Ruined Everything!
18:17 - Derek’s Personal Guarantee: Quick Response Does GREAT Work!
19:14 - Radio Advertising: Still a Successful Marketing Method!
21:36 - How to Manage FIFTY Employees: Treat Them Right!
22:45 - Daigle’s HR Department: Once You Reach a Certain Size, You NEED One!
23:36 - Hiring For Blue Collar Trades… Very Difficult!
24:20 - Darn You, Salt Life! Vacations Be Damned!
25:49 - Where Does Quick Response Find Talent?.. Indeed, and Employee Recommendations! (For Now)
26:58 - Mike’s Farm: Now Has a Brand New Pig, Penelope! She’s a Princess!
28:19 - COVID’s Contribution to the Labor Shortage: How Did it Change So Much?..
29:32 - … But a Big Shift is Likely Coming!
31:07 - The Next Steps For Quick Response: Big Growth Incoming!
32:40 - New Office Location: Where Could it Be?
33:17 - Vince’s Key to Success: Hard Work! That’s It!
34:25 - A Typical Day in Vince’s Life: Being On Call is No Joke!
36:09 - Working in Restoration, You See it All! Stranger Than Fiction!
37:10 - How to Get in Touch With Quick Response: Give Them a Call!
38:20 - How Vince Achieves Work-Life Balance… He Doesn’t!
39:40 - Being On-Call Isn’t Just for Restoration! MARKETING EMERGENCIES!
40:37 - The Trade-Off: Employees and Bosses Alike Have Their Own Sets of Problems!
41:45 - Contractors… Better Book in Advance, Because There’s a LONG Wait!
43:26 - Does the Economic Slump Affect Daigle?.. Only A Little!
44:07 - Calling Back Customers: A Surprisingly Effective Strategy!
44:25 - Quick Response’s Unique Situation: Recession-Proof!
45:07 - Mike’s Other Podcast: Faces of Veterans! Check it Out!
46:04 - College: Go For the Right Reasons, or Don’t Go at All!
49:16 - Shotgunning Beers, Yee-Haw!
49:49 - Closing Remarks
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Mike Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Vince Laurenzo
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Runtime
51 Minutes 43 Seconds
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Air Date
October 11th, 2022
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Episode 15: Anthony Guadagnino (Veteran-Made Woodworks)
Episode 15: Anthony Guadagnino (Veteran-Made Woodworks)
Episode 15: Anthony Guadagnino (Veteran-Made Woodworks)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this Episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Anthony Guadagnino, owner and operator of Veteran-Made Woodworks! Anthony shares some great stories about past successes - and failures - and discusses his workman's philosophy in this brand new episode!
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
Anthony Guadagnino - Veteran-Made Woodworks
00:16 - Introduction: We’re on the Scene!
01:54 - A Basic Overview of Anthony Guadagnino
03:24 - A Basic Overview of Veteran-Made Woodworks
06:22 - His Greatest Customers: Patriots of all Kinds!
07:49 - Business Profits: Not for Vacations, But Building the Business Bigger!
09:12 - Chain of Command: Comes Natural to Veterans… Not Always to Civilians!
11:03 - Sentimental Pieces Deserve the Strictest Quality Control!
12:07 - Mike & Derek Take a Look at a Flamethrower
15:18 - Your First Employees: The Hurdle of Hiring Help
18:18 - A Very Special Customer, and a Very Special Night
19:57 - More Special Customers
21:09 - Training Your Next Competitor: Keep Your Eyes Peeled!
23:05 - Anthony’s Biggest Mistake: Overworking!
25:29 - Maintaining Health = Maintaining Success: Make the Time!
26:51 - Upcoming Content: Stay Tuned!
28:20 - The Value of Toughness: Physical AND Mental!
30:55 - Mental Toughness: Patience, Critical Thinking, Empathy… Keep a Level Head!
33:41 - Motivation vs. Discipline: One Depends on Your Emotions, One Doesn’t!
36:01 - Getting Excited Over Gas Being $3.89 a Gallon… Take Whatever Wins You Can!
38:10 - Derek Foster: Super-Sonic Machine! Speeding up Your Processes
39:39 - Being Able to Say No: When to Say When?
40:52 - Early on, Say Yes, Get the Money in!.. Later, Know Your Business’ Limits!
42:56 - Looking Back… Be Proud of How Far You’ve Come!
45:00 - The Logos: Creating Them Like a Tattoo!
46:18 - Lighting Cigars With a Blowtorch!.. And Some Brand Recommendations
47:35 - Anthony’s One Final Piece of Advice: Do What You Can Yourself, but Don’t be Afraid to Outsource!
49:52 - Closing Remarks: How to Get in Touch With Veteran-Made Woodworks
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Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Anthony Guadagnino
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51 Minutes 16 Seconds
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Air Date
September 19th, 2022
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Episode 14: Patrick Farnan (Next-Level Finishes)
Episode 14: Patrick Farnan (Next-Level Finishes)
Episode 14: Patrick Farnan (Next-Level Finishes)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Patrick Farnan from Next Level Finishes! Patrick really hit it home for us that running a successful business doesn't need to wait - it can start as soon as you're willing to put the time and work in!
Patrick Farnan - Next Level Finishes
00:16 - Introduction
01:21 - The First Six Months: Making the Transition and Learning From Your Mistakes
05:51 - The Moment: A Failure That Opens Your Eyes
08:20 - Starting (and Running) Your Own Business is Not Easy!
10:01 - The “Stepping Stone” - How to Approach Your Mentor
13:39 - Farnan’s Most Important Tip - Be Prepared For Anything!
14:37 - When Is It Time to Transition From Side Gig to Full-Time?
16:40 - Can a Finance Degree Help With Bookkeeping Operations?
18:37 - The Biggest Roadblock: Dealing With Naysayers (Inside Your Circle and Out!)
22:22: - College: Weigh the Cost and Benefits to You Carefully!
23:30 - Work Ethic: Where Has it Gone?
26:20 - Secret to Success: Hard Work, a Support System… And a Little Luck!
27:32 - Hiring: It’s Important to Learn How to Treat Your Workers!
30:36 - Mobile Phones: Boon to Consumers, Bane to Business Owners!
31:46 - Morning Routines
33:31 - What’s Next?
35:05 - Closing Thoughts & Contact Info
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Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Patrick Farnan
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Runtime
36 Minutes 28 Seconds
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Air Date
July 25th, 2022
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Episode 13: Matthew Perry (HVCC)
Episode 13: Matthew Perry (HVCC)
Episode 13: Matthew Perry (HVCC)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Matthew Perry from the Auto-Body Program at Hudson Valley Community College! Matt highlights for us that there need not always be a line between a college degree and trade schooling; sometimes, you can have both!
Matthew Perry - Hudson Valley Community College
00:16 - Introduction
07:13 - HVCC’s Auto-Body Program: What it Offers and Where It Can Take You
15:41 - Who Can Benefit From the Program? Anybody!
19:28 - Evolving Car Technology: Keeping Up With the Times
25:49 - Student Success: An Uplifting Track Record!
30:39 - Hailstorms: A (Car) Roofer’s Best Friend
32:46 - A Golden Chance: Come in Early, Stay Longer, Work Smart, and Make a Mint!
36:15 - Work is What You Make of It!
38:05 - Enrollment: Easy Options Galore!
40:39 - How to Know if Auto-Body Would Be a Good Career Path For You
42:24 - How to Get in Touch and Closing Thoughts
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Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Matthew Perry
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46 Minutes 16 Seconds
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Air Date
July 21st, 2022
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Episode 12: Matt DeFazio (DeFazio's Pizza)
Episode 12: Matt DeFazio (DeFazio's Pizza)
Episode 12: Matt DeFazio (DeFazio's Pizza)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Matt DeFazio from DeFazio's Pizza of Troy and Albany! This episode really highlights that starting with an already-successful business is one thing, but it's what you (and your team) put into it that can make it grow... Or let it crash and burn!
Matt DeFazio - DeFazio's Pizza
00:16 - Introductions
06:25 - DeFazio’s Scale; Past, Present and Future
12:24 - Rising From Hidden Gem to Famous Diamond
16:23 - His Biggest Challenge - Not Finding Workers, But Dealing With Them!
23:00 - Business Owners - Not Out Golfing All Day!
26:12 - Name-Drop of the AWESOME Editor
26:31 - DeFazio’s Biggest Struggle - Online Ordering!
32:05 - The Secret to DeFazio’s Success: Hard Work, But Also Cutting Yourself Some Slack!
36:14 - The Importance of Work Ethic and Common Sense Scheduling
40:04 - DeFazio’s Coaching Experience: How It Helped Him Run His Business, Too!
42:36 - Owning a Business - A Constant, Validating Challenge
45:20 - DeFazio’s “Barstool” Reviewer Score - Sky High! Delicious Food Galore!
51:05 - Final Piece of Advice, and How to Get in Touch
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Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Matt DeFazio
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Runtime
55 Minutes 34 Seconds
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Air Date
July 20th, 2022
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Episode 11: Jennifer Lawrence (SEAT Center)
Episode 11: Jennifer Lawrence (SEAT Center)
Episode 11: Jennifer Lawrence (SEAT Center)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Jennifer Lawrence from SEAT Center! Jennifer makes it clear for us that with the right training and support, anyone can succeed!
Social Enterprise And Training (SEAT) Center - Jennifer Lawrence
00:16 - Introduction
03:15 - SEAT Center’s Origin Story
06:18 - Finding Your SEAT: How to Engage With the Center
13:49 - Staffing Opportunities
20:26 - The Success of SEAT’s Graduates
24:15 - Saying Yes: The Key to Success
29:48 - Key Advice - Have a Plan For Your Business’ Scale
32:36 - The Power of No: Know When to Say When!
33:40 - SEAT’s Plans For the Future
38:44 - Mental Toughness Training: Develop Your Strengths!
44:52 - Morning Routines
48:10 - Socializing and Human Limitations
52:16 - The Scope and Format of Planning: Pick Ways That Work For You!
55:28 - Final Piece of Advice and How to Get in Touch With SEAT
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Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Jennifer Lawrence
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Runtime
58 Minutes 49 Seconds
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Air Date
July 19th, 2022
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Episode 10: Mike Robyck & Matt Roberts (MR² Construction)
Episode 10: Mike Robyck & Matt Roberts (MR² Construction)
Episode 10: Mike Robyck & Matt Roberts (MR² Construction)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Mike Robyck and Matt Roberts from MR² Construction Services! They make it clear for us that no matter what your background or how you start up, you can make your business shine with enough work - and a little luck!
Mike Robyck & Matt Roberts - MR² Construction Services
00:16 - Introductions
05:20 - What Motivated Them To Start Their Business?
11:50 - Managing Employees: Strategies and Complications
13:56 - Strategizing the Expansion of a Business
18:55 - Finding the Right People For the Job
22:16 - Commercial Break
22:41 - Rags to Riches: Doing What It Takes
26:36 - Adapting to Stress
30:12 - The MR² Process: Structure is Crucial!
34:10 - Recreation: Mike and Matt’s Hobbies
39:32 - MR²’s Secret to Success
42:44 - Thoughts on Work Ethic
43:38 - MR²’s Final Piece of Advice
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Interviewers
Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Mike Robyck & Matt Roberts
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Runtime
47 Minutes 9 Seconds
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Air Date
July 8th, 2022
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Episode 9: Randy Rowe (Farrell Bros.)
Episode 9: Randy Rowe (Farrell Bros.)
Episode 9: Randy Rowe (Farrell Bros.)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Randy Rowe from Farrell Brothers Plumbing & Heating! Randy makes it clear for us that running a franchise (or two) can be in the cards for anyone who's willing to put the work in!
Randy Rowe - Farrell Brothers Plumbing & Heating
00:16 - Introductions
05:56 - Randy’s Franchises: What the Value Is
13:41 - Adding Businesses: What to Look For (and What to Avoid)
16:50 - Randy’s Biggest Challenge: Finding Workers!
21:43 - Randy’s Daily Routine
23:48 - Commercial Break
24:25 - Randy’s Thoughts on Work Ethic: It Can Be Taught!
26:18 - A Fifty-Year-Old Toilet?
27:08 - College: Is It the Right Choice?
28:59 - Business-Planning and Goal-Setting: Retirement’s a Long Way Off!
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Interviewers
Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Randy Rowe
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Runtime
34 Minutes 57 Seconds
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Air Date
July 7th, 2022
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Episode 8: Bryan Berry (Color Code Painting)
Episode 8: Bryan Berry (Color Code Painting)
Episode 8: Bryan Berry (Color Code Painting)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our hosts Mike Nelson and Derek Foster interview Bryan Berry from Color Code Painting! Bryan makes it clear for us that no amount of adversity is insurmountable as long as you're willing to put your nose to the grindstone and work towards your goals!
Bryan Berry - Color Code Painting
00:16 - Introduction
03:58 - Achieving the Balance: The Fine Line Between Complacency, and Valuing Yourself and Your Accomplishments
05:55 - Color Code Painting - From an Apprenticeship to an Award-Winning Business
11:57 - The Pivotal Moment: When it Was Time to Work For Himself Full-Time
17:02 - Bryan's Time in Prison: A Transformative Experience
25:11 - Your Biggest Obstacle in Business... Can Be Yourself!
30:36 - Commercial Break
31:00 - Bryan's Tips & Tricks: How to Keep Yourself (and Your Workers) Motivated
43:14 - Bryan's Secrets to Success!
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Interviewers
Michael Nelson & Derek Foster
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Guest
Bryan Berry
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Runtime
48 Minutes 36 Seconds
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Air Date
June 3rd, 2022
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Episode 7: Dr. Turina Parker (NY BOCES)
Episode 7: Dr. Turina Parker (NY BOCES)
Episode 7: Dr. Turina Parker (NY BOCES)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our host Mike Nelson interviews Dr. Turina Parker from New York BOCES! Dr. Parker makes it clear for us that properly directed education is the best route towards success - whatever you happen to study!
Dr. Turina Parker - New York BOCES
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00:16 - Introduction
01:30 - BOCES' Approach to Adult Learning: Technical Trades Galore!
06:04 - BOCES' Approach to Child Learning: Getting Excited About Learning!
09:14 - Derek Steps In!
09:53 - The Student Stigma Against BOCES: How Baseless It Really Is!
13:15 - Women in the Trades: What BOCES Is Doing About It
18:54 - List of What Trade Learning BOCES Offers
20:33 - How Do I Know if BOCES Is Right For Me, My Child, or My Business?
22:22 - Commercial Break
23:01 - Overcoming Barriers: How BOCES Makes Itself Known and Available
27:03 - Women in the Trades Part 2: Measured Success and Aspirations
29:23 - Student-Focused Learning: Individualizing the Experience
33:13 - How to Get in Touch With BOCES
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Interviewer
Michael Nelson
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Dr. Turina Parker
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Runtime
35 Minutes 55 Seconds
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Air Date
May 31st, 2022
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Episode 6: Matt Smith (Ace Home Inspections)
Episode 6: Matt Smith (Ace Home Inspections)
Episode 6: Matt Smith (Ace Home Inspections)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our host Mike Nelson interviews Matt Smith from Ace Home Inspections! Matt makes it clear for us that the best thing about blue-collar businesses is the motivation that goes behind them - if you believe, you can achieve!
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/58-brDE31B4
00:17 - Introduction
01:19 - Interview Begins
02:48 - Prospective Homeowners Should Want to Be Informed
09:41 - Derek Foster Refuses to Visually Cameo But Is With Us in Spirit
10:03 - Ace’s Success, And How Difficult Founding and Running a Business Can be
16:33 - What Made Matt Decide to Start His Business
19:17 - Extra Help Matt Hired, and the Reasons Why
24:45 - Commercial Break
25:13 - Interview Recommences; Matt Refuses To Leave, Mike Reveals His Favorite Timelord
25:36 - Matt Talks Metrics: What to Keep an Eye on
31:55 - Work Ethic
33:12 - College Education
40:33 - Daily Routine
43:29 - Matt’s Number-One Tip For Success
44:58 - Closer: How to Get In Touch With Mike and Ace Home Inspections
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Interviewer
Michael Nelson
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Matt Smith
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46 Minutes 36 Seconds
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Air date
May 19th, 2022
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Episode 5: Josh Jewett (Cole's Collision)
Episode 5: Josh Jewett (Cole's Collision)
Episode 5: Josh Jewett (Cole's Collision)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our host Mike Nelson interviews Josh Jewett from Cole’s Collision... Some really great stories here on growing a business from zero to 90 employees, with multiple locations and more! Definitely a must-hear episode!
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MUCmeTQGtIg
01:17 - No Choice But to Be a Car Guy
01:50 - Hudson Valley Mechanical Course...
04:09 - ... It’s a Unique Program
06:26 - Starting a Lifelong Career
14:45 - Cat Food and Crackers
17:29 - A Hailstorm: A Saving Grace
21:09 - Networking... Is Working!
24:00 - Growth Through Acquisition
26:55 - When Things Go South…
28:40 - Trying to Grow a Business; Not Kill a Business!
30:43 - Quadrupling the Business
37:16 - Growing or Dying
37:53 - Biggest Challenge
42:20 - Mini Companies Inside Your Company
45:22 - Certifications
47:22 - The Mosaic Basic Things You Need as a Solid Employee
47:38 - Apprentice Program
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Michael Nelson
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Josh Jewett
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Runtime
55 Minutes 16 Seconds
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Air Date
May 3rd, 2022
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Episode 4: Jamie Magur (Troy Grooming Company)
Episode 4: Jamie Magur (Troy Grooming Company)
Episode 4: Jamie Magur (Troy Grooming Company)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our Host Mike Nelson interviews Jamie Magur from Troy Grooming Company. Jamie really highlighted for us that no matter what your story is, no matter where the road has taken you... You CAN start over, and you CAN be successful!
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2WP4Pc8Jp4I
01:19 - Barbershops are on the Return!
01:56 - Cutting Hair in the Garage
02:56 - “It’s in the Family”
03:13 - Uncle Tony Disrupting the Game
05:38 - Keep You Coming Back
08:31 - You Pay for the Company, and Get the Haircut for Free!
08:57 - What it Takes to Run a Barbershop in the Current Environment
11:36 - “...Learn a Trade on YouTube…”
15:14 - Biggest Challenge - Starting Over
23:25 - The Resurgence of Many Trades in the Last 5 to 10 Years: Barbers, Butchers, and More
24:25 - Why He Went to College
29:30 - Work Ethic
30:44 - What the Younger Generation is Looking For
32:32 - Going Backwards
34:16 - Morning Routines
36:27 - Goal-Setting and Planning?
39:38 - Giving Back... And the "Curse Jar"
41:08 - One Piece of Advice
42:21 - If You Love it... Stick With it!
42:35 - College is Not the Only Way
46:01 - How to Get in Touch
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Interviewer
Michael Nelson
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Guest
Jamie Magur
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Runtime
48 Minutes 02 Seconds
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Air Date
April 20th, 2022
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Episode 3: Devon Camenga (Camenga Construction)
Episode 3: Devon Camenga (Camenga Construction)
Episode 3: Devon Camenga (Camenga Construction)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, our host Mike Nelson interviews Devon Camenga from Camenga Construction. Devon really highlights how to go from no-hustle to side-hustle, and then how to turn that side-hustle into your full-time gig! Big secret to success here? We'll give you a hint: Reputation.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JApYhfx6RfI
2:53 - Who is Camenga Construction, and What Do They Do?
5:12 - The Difference in Demand Between Now, and Just 5 Years Ago
11:23 - Young Blue Collar Labor Force
14:18 - Soloprenuer!
14:47 - Looking For an Apprentice.
16:40 - Making the Jump from Educator to Full-Time Contractor...
18:57 - ... It's a Scary Leap.
21:04 - Your Reputation is EVERYTHING!
22:14 - You Have to Know How to Network
24:21 - The Plight of the Adirondack Contractor
27:58 - Mentors Along the Way
30:15 - Secret to Success
32:11 - State of Blue Collar Industries
44:26 - Things to Consider - Trade School IS an Option!
47:06 - Mental Toughness...
49:01 One Bad Job
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Interviewer
Michael Nelson
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Devon Camenga
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Runtime
50 Minutes 40 Seconds
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Air Date
March 25th, 2022
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Episode 2: Derek Foster (Daigle Cleaning Systems)
Episode 2: Derek Foster (Daigle Cleaning Systems)
Episode 2: Derek Foster (Daigle Cleaning Systems)
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
In this episode, Mike interviews Derek Foster: co-founder of Blue Collar StartUp, president of Daigle Cleaning Systems, and CEO of DCS Franchises. Derek has grown a commercial cleaning and janitorial business from his side hustle to a thriving multi-million dollar business with over 100 employees! In this podcast, Derek fills us in on how he got started, going from side hustle to full time, and what it takes to grow a successful business in the janitorial industry.04:13 - Work Ethic06:50 - Side Hustle Start Up10:05 - Creating Process11:13 - Everyone Sucks Sometime13:46 - When Mistakes Happen, You Have Two Choices25:05 - State of the Blue Collar Industries29:41 - From Chaos... Comes Opportunity31:29 - Patience - It Goes a Long Way!32:14 - Biggest Challenge Derek Ever Faced33:00 - Wake-Up Call37:10 - Will vs Skill37:22 - What Would he do Differently, if he Could Do it Again?38:34 - Mentors Along the Way44:01 - Secret to Success
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Interviewer
Michael Nelson
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Derek Foster
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Runtime
48 Minutes
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Air Date
March 14th, 2022
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Episode 1: You Gotta' Start Somewhere
Episode 1: You Gotta' Start Somewhere
You Gotta' Start Somewhere
Welcome to Blue Collar StartUp the podcast.
Our Mission is Simple: To facilitate the growth and development of Blue Collar businesses. We will showcase REAL Blue Collar businesses in interviews, and use these stories to help educate and empower the next generation of trades workers to become Blue Collar business owners.
Overview
In our first episode Derek Foster and Mike Nelson discuss what the podcast is about, who it is for, and what is behind it all.
We (MIke) did make a couple mistakes while recording so our audio is a little off on this one. We also discovered that Mike should not be allowed to chew gum during recording. As the title says though: "You gotta' start somewhere", and we look forward to improving the quality of the recording as we go.
Show Notes
- 00:38 - Derek Gives us the Run-Down on Blue Collar StartUp
- 01:55 - Huge Opportunity
- 02:28 - What We Know to be True...
- 03:56 - Tech is Sexy!
- 04:48 - Derek's Favorite Show
- 05:51 - The Idea...
- 06:58 - The Blue Collar Blueprint
- 09:16 - Application of Knowledge
- 10:14 - Putting it Out There!
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Location
Care Clean Warehouse
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Runtime
10 min 54 seconds
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Record Date
February 24, 2022
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Airing Date
February 25, 2022
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Mike Nelson
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Derek Foster
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