Episode Overview
In this episode of Blue Collar StartUp, host Derek Foster sits down with Scott McKenna, Stacy Spector, and Jason Spector of Catamount Consulting for a roundtable discussion on leadership development, mindset mastery, and the personal growth tools that help blue collar teams perform at a higher level. They break down the “Three Truths,” explain why psychological safety and vulnerability matter, and share actionable strategies like journaling, micro-habits, and building discipline over motivation.
To learn more about the guests and their work, visit catamountconsultingllc.com and connect with their team.
Time Stamps
0:00 Derek opens the show solo and introduces the Catamount roundtable
1:00 Recording at Milton CAT + facility shoutout
3:15 Catamount Consulting origin story
4:30 Safety as a byproduct of strong leadership
5:10 Professional vs personal development
6:00 Stacey’s career shift from attorney to leadership training
6:50 Jason’s background in education, behavior psychology, mindset mastery
8:10 How do you get non-competitive people to buy into development?
8:55 Why coaching isn’t optional
10:20 The “Three Truths” explained
11:05 Truth #1: everyone is flawed
12:05 The 3 most common organizational struggles
13:10 Why brain science helps people stop being defensive
15:05 How long does it take to shift mindset?
18:05 Infinite game mindset and levels of buy-in
21:10 What if you want to grow but don’t have a leader/mentor?
23:15 Brené Brown, Carol Dweck, Ryan Holiday, Amy Edmondson
25:10 The 4 most deadly words: I’ll do it myself
27:10 Feed your mind like your body
30:00 The “two easies” habit strategy: easy to do / easy not to do
32:30 How much time per day should personal development take?
36:45 Pillow test and well/better/how framework through journaling
40:50 Manifestation explained
42:20 Can discipline be developed?
Details
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Hosts
Derek Foster
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Guests
Scott McKenna, Stacy Spector, & Jason Spector
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Runtime
55 mins, 37 secs
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Airing Date
February 11, 2026